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	<title>Comments on: Offshore Outsourcing: Hourly Rate or Project Based?</title>
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		<title>By: mcgrath</title>
		<link>http://outsource.supergloo.com/blog/2006/09/12/offshore-outsourcing-hourly-rate-or-project-based/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>mcgrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joseph and Jason, you bring up good points.  Jason, thanks for the links to hourly vs. fixed bid debates in software development.

-Todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joseph and Jason, you bring up good points.  Jason, thanks for the links to hourly vs. fixed bid debates in software development.</p>
<p>-Todd</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Chicola</title>
		<link>http://outsource.supergloo.com/blog/2006/09/12/offshore-outsourcing-hourly-rate-or-project-based/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Chicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

Great topic - buyers who want to build remote teams need to think about whether to pay hourly or on a fixed bid basis.

(Disclosure - I work for &lt;a href="http://www.odesk.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;oDesk&lt;/a&gt;)

Our customers have told us that the hourly model is best when:

* Your requirements are not set in stone, and may change over time
* You may want to retain the worker's services on a long-term basis
* You may want the flexibility to end the project after only a few hours of work 

A fixed-bid project model may be desirable if:

* Your requirements are extremely detailed AND set in stone
* Your project size is relatively small (less than a few weeks of work)

For more on the hourly vs fixed bid debate, check out a &lt;a href="https://community.odesk.com/node/22" rel="nofollow"&gt;discussion in the oDesk Community&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/11/when-do-you-give-fixed-bid/" rel="nofollow"&gt;discussion in a SitePoint forum&lt;/a&gt;, and a &lt;a href="http://angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=10&#38;y=2003&#38;m=7&#38;d=11" rel="nofollow"&gt;rant from the angryCoder&lt;/a&gt;.

-Jason Chicola</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>Great topic - buyers who want to build remote teams need to think about whether to pay hourly or on a fixed bid basis.</p>
<p>(Disclosure - I work for <a href="http://www.odesk.com" rel="nofollow">oDesk</a>)</p>
<p>Our customers have told us that the hourly model is best when:</p>
<p>* Your requirements are not set in stone, and may change over time<br />
* You may want to retain the worker&#8217;s services on a long-term basis<br />
* You may want the flexibility to end the project after only a few hours of work </p>
<p>A fixed-bid project model may be desirable if:</p>
<p>* Your requirements are extremely detailed AND set in stone<br />
* Your project size is relatively small (less than a few weeks of work)</p>
<p>For more on the hourly vs fixed bid debate, check out a <a href="https://community.odesk.com/node/22" rel="nofollow">discussion in the oDesk Community</a>, a <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/11/when-do-you-give-fixed-bid/" rel="nofollow">discussion in a SitePoint forum</a>, and a <a href="http://angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=10&amp;y=2003&amp;m=7&amp;d=11" rel="nofollow">rant from the angryCoder</a>.</p>
<p>-Jason Chicola</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph A. di Paolantonio</title>
		<link>http://outsource.supergloo.com/blog/2006/09/12/offshore-outsourcing-hourly-rate-or-project-based/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph A. di Paolantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Project based pricing [some version of firm-fixed price] requires experience on the part of the vendor, confidence on the part of the customer, a willingness from both parties to negotiate an exacting scope of work, and the business processes, project management procedures and collaboration tools required for both parties to track work against the scope.  Perhaps you find the sites catering to full-project outsourcing to be lacking because the activity of creating, negotiating and managing a successfully outsourced project is simply too complex for simple text/graphic web-based software to handle.

Perhaps web technology is just suited to managing the suplemental staffing of a "code monkey" churning out a program module against a detailed specification including psuedo-code, with no room for the creativity normally associated with software development and problem solving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Project based pricing [some version of firm-fixed price] requires experience on the part of the vendor, confidence on the part of the customer, a willingness from both parties to negotiate an exacting scope of work, and the business processes, project management procedures and collaboration tools required for both parties to track work against the scope.  Perhaps you find the sites catering to full-project outsourcing to be lacking because the activity of creating, negotiating and managing a successfully outsourced project is simply too complex for simple text/graphic web-based software to handle.</p>
<p>Perhaps web technology is just suited to managing the suplemental staffing of a &#8220;code monkey&#8221; churning out a program module against a detailed specification including psuedo-code, with no room for the creativity normally associated with software development and problem solving.</p>
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